The 4+ Man TipiTent will comfortably hold 4 people and their full size backpacks and rifles, etc. It is 8' 6" tall and 13' outside diameter (12' 7" floor diameter). It weighs approximately 13 lbs, depending on configuration, including the outer wall, inner wall/floor combo, center pole and 16 premium, large MSR Cyclone stakes and tent, pole and stake bags. This is our most popular version as often several buddies will divide up the weight of the tent and backpack it in. Many customers that pack with horses or mules use this tent as it often reduces their pack string by one horse/mule as they don't need to pack a heavy canvas wall tent anymore. The 4+ uses the Seek Outside (SO) Large Titanium stove. These are well designed, lightweight stoves with a flat top, which is great for cooking, and a damper that lets you set the temperature you want in your TipiTent.  You will need longer stove legs to use SO stoves in WildSide Systems TipiTents. These are available by clicking on 'Store' above. Click here to purchase TipiTents: Store